If the reason for putting recessed down is because they truly are not sealable and truly are inferior to a flush mount that does stick down, and that does possibly create a glare when placed say next to a window or next to anything shiny, then I would probably be more convinced.ĭo you folks have any recommendations on some time-tested options for flush mount LED lights that are in the 3000k to 4000k range and priced $30 to $55? I have only seen the Phillips brand recommended here and I'd like to see other options that are proven to not die from premature failure after their Jbox is completely air tight.Ĭharlie I did find those today (the Commercial Electric). I believe my original idea in posting this question is to discuss what is truly wrong with an IC/AT Rated Recessed LED Lights? Assume I heed caution on diligently installing the fixture which has few penetrations in the can in the first place that I would calk around, and then, I would also make sure the LED Trim that snaps in has a gasket that seals. I want to see how obtrusive the light is compared to some trusted recessed cans that I currently do have. If I can trial these lights on the ceiling, I will. There are a few name brands of flush mount lights but they are about $60 each. Stephen, that sounds like my situation but with wall cabinets.ĭana & Malcolm, I'm open to flush mount LED. I agree that cans are generally not appropriate in ceilings below unconditioned space. With leds in every fixture, they are inexpensive to operate. If we had it to do over, we'd keep the cans. A major consideration was our inability to find fixtures that fit with our spare, minimalist design preferences. We designed the lights after experiencing our old kitchen, which functioned well, but needed more lighting. The result is a well illuminated work space. When preparing meals, we usually have on the two sets of four (over the counter that has sink and cooktop and over island closest to counter). We also have a set of five globes over the island that we use for atmosphere when eating at the island. One individual can over a small counter next to the fridge. Two sets of four and two over the island. We have no upper cabinets, so no under cabinet lighting. Plus I can’t install a sconce where cabinets are taking up wall space.)Īny input on this topic, what else is missing from the puzzle? If clearance is not a problem, and installation is done properly to make sure there are no air leaks, what is there to lose when compared to jbox + surface mount at two or three times the price? (I can’t benefit from lighting the ceiling in my kitchen when I want to see the countertop. I agree, but also feel each room has a certain kind of light. I will be using these in the kitchen, bathroom, and office probably while I want to use a different style to light the ceiling as GBA seems to preach is a better method versus can lighting. If I were to diligently seal a recessed IC/AT fixture, would I be shooting myself in the foot by NOT using the newer slim-mount lights? I will have a traditional vented attic with plenty of cellulose above the fixtures, so the low clearance of a j box is not much of a concern for me like others. I’m comparing the two, and although flush mount are typically easier to install, they also cost 3x the price for the lumen range I am looking at, and they seem to produce a glare. If this seals, then there is no air leaking even if there is a baseball size hole in the light’s fixture, right? I think in reality, the key point is sealing between the ceiling drywall and the light trim piece. Caulking? Sure, as long as it doesn’t shrink in extreme temperatures. Spray foam? No, some people argue that is a fire hazard with an LED transformer inside the box, or argue that it’s not permanent and will harden and break off. So you have to seal around the exterior of the jbox and you also have to seal any romex penetration at the top of the box. But this assumes the installation is done properly. So, if we step back and compare that to what appears to be the golden solution flush/surface mount lights installed in a j-box, we seem to solve that problem. The general consensus I am seeing is: Can lights are evil. I am doing more research in lighting after an earlier question and reading other articles.
0 Comments
Leave a Reply. |
AuthorWrite something about yourself. No need to be fancy, just an overview. ArchivesCategories |